星孤集 2016-2019 The Solitary Star of Tianshui 2016–2019 第 07 篇 Section 07
PZX、MDY暴论HK PZX and MDY’s Hot Takes on Hong Kong
返回 星孤集 2016-2019 Back to The Solitary Star of Tianshui 2016–2019我:香港动乱根本是香港的教育失败!敢于发声的人都是中老年人,这是多么悲哀啊![END]
Me: The turmoil in Hong Kong is fundamentally a failure of Hong Kong’s education! The people willing to speak out are all middle-aged or elderly. How tragic is that! [END]
mdy:我个人觉得精英阶层的社会效用被放大,并且在这个过分注重结果的时代,我们往往注意到了成功者,关注他们对社会的影响。但不管在什么时代,社会力量都是变革和运动的核心。只要调动底层民众的民族自豪感和归属感,就可汇聚磅礴之力。毫无疑问,中国现在的民族向心力是改革开放以来最强的、最团结的。
mdy: Personally, I think the social utility of elites has been exaggerated. In an era excessively focused on results, we tend to notice successful people and concentrate on their influence on society. But in every era, social forces are the core of change and movements. As long as the national pride and sense of belonging of ordinary people can be mobilized, tremendous power can be assembled. There is no doubt that China’s national cohesion today is stronger and more united than at any time since reform and opening up.
资本社会的积累时间长,在一定程度上控制变革是必然的;但随着社会主义中国的复兴与第三世界的快速发展,在多方面平衡了传统的资本主义。一种新型的资本主义社会在诞生。大资本家和上层建筑固然可以改变短期国家走向;但往长远看,社会力量的意愿才是一个国家前进的轨迹。
Capitalist societies have accumulated capital over a long period of time, so to a certain extent it is inevitable that capital controls change. But with the revival of socialist China and the rapid development of the Third World, traditional capitalism has been balanced in many respects. A new type of capitalist society is emerging. Major capitalists and the superstructure can certainly alter the short-term direction of a country, but in the long run, the will of social forces determines the trajectory along which a country advances.
对于香港问题,谁都不希望流血;中国作为一党专政国家,高度集权与政治单一化已经决定了香港不可能乱下来,不可能闹起来。每一个中国人民都不允许香港触碰一国两制的边界,这是雷池,也是底线。任何人不可越雷池一步。这是一个契机,但改革的时机还不成熟;至少中国国力还无法承担这样一次改革。
As for Hong Kong, nobody wants bloodshed. China, as a one-party authoritarian state, has a high degree of centralization and political uniformity, which has already determined that Hong Kong cannot be allowed to descend into chaos or disorder. Every Chinese person will refuse to allow Hong Kong to cross the boundary of “one country, two systems.” This is a forbidden line, a bottom line. Nobody may cross it. This is an opportunity, but the time for reform is not yet mature; at the very least, China’s current national strength cannot yet bear the cost of such a reform.
其实我认为对于香港/澳门,关键在于:① 加强爱国精神建设 ② 改善香港民众生活 ③ 开展大型文化交流 *④ 适当增强香港警备
Actually, I believe the keys to Hong Kong and Macao are: ① Strengthen patriotic education
② Improve the lives of Hong Kong residents
③ Conduct large-scale cultural exchanges
*④ Appropriately strengthen Hong Kong’s security presence
香港作为对外开放的桥头堡,以及人民币国际化的中心,是绝不能乱的,所以短期(近 50 年,至 2046 年)香港不会有变革。本次骚乱应该是美英阻止中国人民币国际化,扰乱中国经济秩序,破坏中国国际形象。
Hong Kong serves as a bridgehead for opening to the outside world and as a center for the internationalization of the renminbi, so it absolutely cannot be allowed to fall into chaos. Therefore, in the short term—roughly fifty years, through 2046—Hong Kong will not undergo fundamental change. This unrest is probably an attempt by the United States and the United Kingdom to obstruct the internationalization of the renminbi, disrupt China’s economic order, and damage China’s international image.
应和平解决,稳中求发展。求指教! [END]
It should be resolved peacefully, with development pursued through stability. I welcome criticism and advice! [END]
我:的确,这次香港动乱给了我们一个改革的契机,但我们决不能放纵香港反动分子的暴动而不管,而只是为了进行”改革”而无视生命。放心,中央政府一定会出手的。
Me: Indeed, this turmoil in Hong Kong has given us an opportunity for reform, but we absolutely cannot simply allow violent acts by reactionary elements in Hong Kong to continue unchecked, nor can we ignore human lives merely for the sake of “reform.” Rest assured, the central government will definitely intervene.
这可不是珍珠港!伟大的习主席也不是罗斯福。要知道中国政治力量会严格”纠偏”社会力量的,”改革”这种风险极高的方法,可不得已是绝不会用的。(一定动力方可成功)商鞅变法、王安石变法、戊戌变法……甚至改革开放亦如此!
This is not Pearl Harbor! The great Chairman Xi is not Roosevelt either. You have to understand that China’s political forces will strictly “correct” social forces. Reform is such a high-risk approach that it will never be used unless absolutely necessary. (Only sufficient driving force can produce success.) Shang Yang’s reforms, Wang Anshi’s reforms, the Hundred Days’ Reform… even reform and opening up followed this principle!
关于外国的维新——明治维新:那是属于政变反革命了可以说,而且还是以天皇为主导;英国脱欧:这是改革?这就是场闹剧!民粹主义的开端!美国内战:打仗的指挥官都是大地主、大资本家。这只是美国制度缺点的必然结果。
As for reforms abroad— The Meiji Restoration: that could almost be described as a coup and a counterrevolution, and in any case it was led by the emperor. Brexit: that is reform? It is a farce! The beginning of populism! The American Civil War: the commanders were major landowners and capitalists. This was merely an inevitable consequence of flaws in the American system.
政治力量都与资本力量牢牢结合,而社会力量在 21 世纪才渐渐有地位,故 21 世纪的中国人享有前所未有的言论自由与社会力量。
Political power has always been tightly intertwined with capital, while social forces have only gradually gained status in the twenty-first century. Therefore, Chinese people in the twenty-first century enjoy unprecedented freedom of speech and social power.
本次香港风波:① 死伤并不多,恐怖主义 ② 可怕的平衡 ③ 更深层次的东西:香港的特殊性。充分证明了,一国两制不只是口号!让香港与内地步伐统一有几个当务之急:① 经济模式的改变 ② 教育的革新 ③ 珠三角地区的整合 ④ 对外国势力的打击。不改到这些香港不会停歇。
Regarding the current Hong Kong disturbances:
① Relatively few deaths and injuries; terrorism
② A frightening balance
③ Something deeper: Hong Kong’s special status All of this fully demonstrates that “one country, two systems” is more than a slogan! Several urgent tasks are required to bring Hong Kong and the mainland into alignment:
① Change the economic model
② Reform education
③ Integrate the Pearl River Delta region
④ Combat foreign forces Hong Kong will not become stable unless these changes are made.
比较中国梦与美国梦(特殊时期的神话,如今不再风光),便是修身齐家治国平天下、小我与大我 vs 每个人都能通过自己的努力实现自己的梦想。现在美国梦风光不再,贫富分化加大,普通美国人成功的机会越来越小,而中国梦风头正劲!
Compare the Chinese Dream with the American Dream—the latter being a myth belonging to a particular historical period and no longer as glorious today. It is essentially “cultivate oneself, regulate the family, govern the state, and bring peace to the world,” the smaller self and the greater self, versus “everyone can realize their dreams through their own efforts.” Today the American Dream has lost much of its luster. The wealth gap has increased, and ordinary Americans have fewer and fewer opportunities to succeed, whereas the Chinese Dream is in the ascendant!
特朗普的演讲点出了一些当下美国社会的特点:① 贫富差距过大(资本力量太大) ② 中产阶级在缩小 ③ “美国人民站起来了”(指华盛顿权贵) ④ 保护主义、民族主义(狭隘的爱国主义) ⑤ 空谈误国,实干兴邦。主要原因则是美国政治体制出了大问题,太多利益集团的绑架!【政治力量:”三权分立”;社会力量:媒体、社会议题;资本力量:华尔街(里根不设上限)】
Trump’s speeches reveal several characteristics of contemporary American society: ① An excessive wealth gap—the power of capital is too great
② A shrinking middle class
③ “The American people have risen up”—referring to Washington elites
④ Protectionism and nationalism—a narrow form of patriotism
⑤ “Empty talk harms the nation; practical work makes it prosper” The principal cause is that the American political system has developed serious problems and has been captured by too many interest groups! 【Political forces: “separation of powers”; social forces: media and social issues; capital forces: Wall Street—Reagan removed the ceiling】
归根到底是美国的资本逐利性与贫富两极分化,而中国三种力量相对平衡。当然,在重新定义现代性的过程中,中国财富增长下也存在诸多问题:① 扶贫的形式主义 ② 中央与地方的权力之争 ③ 党的建设。归根到底改革要克服既得利益,代表人民利益的势力,这正是西方改革动力不足的原因。
Ultimately, the problem lies in the profit-seeking nature of American capital and the polarization of wealth, whereas China’s three forces are relatively balanced. Of course, as China redefines modernity while its wealth grows, it also faces many problems: ① Formalism in poverty alleviation
② Conflicts of power between the central and local governments
③ Party building Ultimately, reform must overcome vested interests and forces representing the people’s interests. This is precisely why Western countries lack sufficient motivation for reform.
如今,社会力量在中国的力量不断增长,言论自由广泛。同时,政治力量也致力于对社会力量的引导与纠偏,对资本力量进行有效的约束。
当然,金融危机之后(08 年),中国贫富差距也拉大了,GDP 增速变慢;陷于 WTO “一抓就死,一放就乱”的 IMF 规则,美国没有底气!还例如”共同富裕”与”绝对贫困”。
但在警惕这些问题的同时,我们更应相信国家与政府。”天道即损有余而补不足”,一切都会越来越好![END]
Today, the power of social forces in China continues to grow, and freedom of speech is widespread. At the same time, political forces are also committed to guiding and correcting social forces while effectively restraining capital. Of course, following the financial crisis of 2008, China’s wealth gap also widened and GDP growth slowed. Trapped in the WTO/IMF framework of “control it and it dies; loosen it and chaos follows,” the United States lacks confidence! Other examples include “common prosperity” and “absolute poverty.” But while remaining alert to all these problems, we should have greater faith in the country and the government. “The Way of Heaven takes from what has excess and gives to what is deficient.” Everything will become better and better! [END]
【2023.8.13 补记】当时感觉mdy这种人在苏中遍地都是,但在园区这种人则寥寥无几,当时的震撼和恐惧现在我还记得。第一次感觉到考班级第一好像不是努努力就可以的了hhh
【Addendum, August 13, 2023】At the time, I felt that people like mdy were everywhere at Suzhou High School, whereas people like that were extremely rare in the Industrial Park. I can still remember the shock and fear I felt then. It was the first time I realized that perhaps getting first place in the class was not something you could accomplish simply by “trying a little harder,” hahaha.